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Q&A With Dancers of The Rite of Spring

Q&A With Dancers of The Rite of Spring
“When someone asked why we were chosen, one of the restagers said it was because of a uniqueness within each of us.”
In between tours, the dancers of The Rite of Spring, which comes to Cal Performances on February 16–18, return to their home countries across Africa. We caught up with two of the dancers, Profit Lucky and Gloria Ugwarelojo Biachi, both from Nigeria, and discussed their careers as dancers and what it’s like being part of The Rite of Spring.
How did you start dancing and where do you dance today?
Profit Lucky: Dance has been my greatest means of communication, joy, and freedom, and has been a part of me right from birth. I started dancing professionally when I saw a post that said I could learn dance for a cheap cost, and I quickly grabbed the offer. Later on I moved to Ghana to further my university studies. Luckily, I met Valerie Miquel, who I consider my “dance mum,” and I worked, trained, and danced with her in a company for years before she moved to France. Currently, I’m not dancing with any dance company.
Gloria Biachi: At first I attended auditions across Nigeria, which boosted my energy and confidence, and kept me going. I discovered a dance school called the Dance Deal Foundation, where I did a three-year course, which helped me master the art of choreography. Now I’m a freelancer in Nigeria, working with dance directors across the country and internationally, and I facilitate dance workshops and awareness programs. This is a project that I think girls like me need and deserve, to share my experience and give back to the community that nurtured me.
How did you get involved in this project?
Profit Lucky: I got involved through Valarie Miquel and some dance friends I made in École des Sables in an exchange dance program in 2019. They all sent me the dance audition post for The Rite of Spring and they asked me to give it a try. I sent my application, travelled to Senegal, and did my auditions. Luckily (just like my surname!) I was selected.
Gloria Biachi: A friend who I met in a dance workshop sent me the application, saying “Gloria, I know you can do this. Go for it!” After being selected for the auditions, leaving Lagos to go to Senegal was a challenge. I checked in on the Goethe-Institut in Nigeria, and they sponsored me with the costs. The auditions lasted for four days, with hundreds of African dancers. In the end, 38 were selected, and I was among them, not because I was perfect, or had the best dance movement—when someone asked why we were chosen, one of the restagers said it was because of a uniqueness within each of us.
How does it feel to dance in Pina Bausch’s The Rite of Spring?
Profit Lucky: My experience has been amazing, magical, intense, filled with lots of learning and growth, and humbling. I got to know about Pina Bausch through my Ghanian friend, so it feels like a dream has come true. It feels very humbling to finally dance The Rite of Spring after so many years of watching videos.
Gloria Biachi: My experience has been a work of patience and trusting in the process. When the pandemic broke out, it was disappointing because we had done so much rehearsal to get ready for the tour. Now we’ve had performances around Europe; I take any opportunity to perform the work. It takes a lot of tolerance and patience to be able to dance this piece, and it takes a lot of ‘YOU.” This project is a legacy, a way of showing my versatility, and that I’ve come a long way. It speaks volumes on where I’ve come from and how much I can achieve.
What do you look forward to most about touring?
Profit Lucky: I am always looking forward to the physical challenges of the piece and how best it can help me progress and develop as an artist. I’m very much more open to different lifestyles, traditions, cultures, perceptions, communications, languages, foods, and histories of the different theaters, venues, cities, and countries we visit.
Gloria Biachi: I look forward to the wonderful audiences, the instant feedback we get from them, and connecting to many professionals around the world who ordinarily wouldn’t see my work. These are career-defining moments for a young girl from Nigeria, and it does great things for me and resonates with the young dancers I mentor. This tour keeps inspiring me every moment and every minute. I can’t wait to be back on stage!
Profit Lucky is a Nigerian dancer who began his dance training in Nigeria, before moving to Ghana to train with Ghana Theatre & Contemporary Dance under the artistic direction of Valerie Miquel, where he was a soloist in two productions for the company. Profit was awarded a full scholarship to Eric Scott Underwood’s Online Summer Intensive Program and the Alonzo King Lines Ballet online summer program. Outside of Dance, Profit also worked as a model dance-model in Nigeria and Ghana, and completed an exchange dance program with École des Sables and Amsterdam University of the Arts.
Gloria Ugwarelojo Biachi, who hails from Delta state of Nigeria, is a Lagos-based dance artist, teacher, choreographer, fitness instructor, actor, and costume designer. Her training includes several national and international residencies/workshops with choreographers and companies from around the world. She completed the AWA Dance mentorship program as part of the class of 2021. Her body of works include stints in theater, television, and motion pictures, and working with children of all ages. In 2021, at the Institute Francaise in Burkina Faso, her solo ILE made its performance debut at the Fido International Festival of Dance. Her latest acting credit is recorded in the Netflix original, Mystic River. Gloria just concluded an Artistic Development Residency at Dance Base Studio in Edinburgh in 2023.
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Photo Gallery: A Day in the Life of Les Ballets Trockadero de Monte Carlo

Photo Gallery: A Day in the Life of Les Ballets Trockadero de Monte Carlo
Capturing the embodied beauty, precision, dedication, and pure joy of the Trocks.
Photos by Brittany Hosea-Small
On Saturday, January 27 and Sunday, January 28, 2024, the world-renowned and Berkeley-beloved Les Ballets Trockadero de Monte Carlo returned to Cal Performances as part of their 50th anniversary celebration. An all male drag ballet company, the Trocks are known for their combination of laugh-out-loud comedy and their unrivaled technical skill as dancers. For the Saturday performance, Cal Performances had the distinct pleasure of commissioning photographer Brittany Hosea-Small to go behind the scenes to capture typically unseen moments in rehearsals, fitting, drag transformation, and more. In this blog, we have compiled some of the most compelling images that capture the beauty, precision, dedication, and pure joy the Trocks embody—moments that words alone could never do justice!
Thank you to Brittany for lending her artistic eye to this project, and to the Trocks for being such incredible, long standing partners to our Cal Performances audiences!
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Bark of Millions: Fantasy and Mystery, Rooted in Queerness

Bark of Millions: Fantasy and Mystery, Rooted in Queerness
“We are part of that same energy, we are the dust from these ancient creative events. And thus we are all tied together.”
By Thomas May, Cal Performances-commissioned writer, critic, educator, and translator
“All we do is sing songs,” says Taylor Mac about Bark of Millions, the new show he and composer Matt Ray have created together with their team of like-minded collaborators. “But there’s something about the ritual of song after song after song inspired by different queer people from world history that is really liberating.”
The link shared by the 55 songs comprising Bark of Millions is the recognition and celebration of queer trailblazers—historical, contemporary, and even from world mythology. Using the Stonewall Riots from the summer of 1969 as a starting reference point, Mac and Ray created one song for each year that has transpired since then.
The world premiere at the Sydney Opera House last October, which marked the 50th anniversary of that landmark venue, was included in the Guardian’s list of Australia’s best stage productions in 2023. Cal Performances presents the West Coast premiere of Bark of Millions (February 23–25, Zellerbach Hall) as one of the highlights of this season’s Illuminations programming on the theme “Individual and Community.”
“We didn’t know what this show would be when we invited Taylor Mac,” says Jeremy Geffen, executive and artistic director of Cal Performances. “But it seemed like the perfect opportunity to introduce the theme ‘Individual and Community,’ which is very much of the moment and informs our national and international dialogue.” Illuminations programming in general, he adds, “was created as a way to reflect on pressing issues of our time through the performing arts, which invite us to become empathetic: you’re quite literally seeing the world through someone else’s eyes. The direct, emotive connection that comes through the performing arts is a powerful tool.”
“My intention is usually just to make something beautiful,” Mac remarks. But his definition of “beautiful” encompasses “the wide range of what beauty can be. It’s not a reductive idea of beauty.” A “fringe benefit” of what such beauty entails in Bark of Millions is that “it feels like we’re purging all of that oppression from growing up queer and then celebrating our survival and our thriving.”
Multifaceted Theater
Mac himself grew up in Stockton in Central Valley, California—he fondly refers to San Francisco as “my first city” (“It always feels like I’m coming back to a better version of home than what I grew up with”)—and gravitated to New York City in his early 20s, shortening his name from Taylor Mac Bower. (Mac also uses “judy” as a pronoun.) Now 50, he has pursued a versatile career as an actor, singer-songwriter, playwright, director, producer, and drag performer. Mac prefers the catch-all term “theater artist” and describes what he does as “an act of consideration and wondering” with regard to other people, to society, to the world around him.
It’s one of the paradoxes of the era we are living through that Mac’s project has become even more necessary in just the last few years, despite the gains in queer rights since the artist came of age. Hundreds of anti-LGBTQ+ bills have been advanced in state legislatures across the US. Murfreesboro, Tennessee even passed an ordinance last summer banning homosexuality. (It was only recently rescinded.) The state is also among those that have passed laws banning drag artists.
“What I’ve noticed from traveling around a lot,” Mac says, “is that societies that don’t embrace queerness have a low-grade depression to them. The more oppressed the culture is, the more depressed the people seem.”
Bark of Millions was not, however, created with the intention of being didactic, of preaching a sermon or imparting a lesson in the history of queer contributions to correct what has been erased from the mainstream. That would in any case call for a more conventional format. Bark is liberating—and subversive—not only in its topic but its presentation.
Ritual is merely one angle from which to consider the dazzlingly multifaceted, abundant theatricality that has become Mac’s signature—as manifested in his largest-scale and most widely known project to date, A 24-Decade History of Popular Music (2016). With its roughly four-hour duration, Bark of Millions is “only” one-sixth of the earlier work’s marathon length but promises to offer a similarly immersive blend evoking aspects of cabaret, musical, song cycle, rock concert, opera, blues jam, nightclub, salon gathering, house party—and, on the “sacred” side of the aisle, a requiem, even a passion play. The list is not exhaustive: surely other performance formats will be elicited according to each participant’s unique experience. Shared with the rest of the audience, however, Bark of Millions is designed to encourage a state of collective trance. Indeed, Mac’s playful subtitle is A Parade Trance Extravaganza for the Living Library of the Deviant Theme.
Mac extends the phenomenon of queerness, which by definition resists being defined, to the work itself. Bark correspondingly revels in being uncategorizeable, irreducible, a joyous hybrid. Such festive polymorphousness—he refers to “everything squished together”—boldly defies the homogeneity of commercial theater. Bark instead resembles something closer to the motley energy of a Pride parade. It’s an analogy Mac likes to make, adding that each of its songs is akin to a float passing by in this extravaganza. This sensibility echoes something of the anarchic, camp-fueled creativity that Charles Ludlam and his co-provocateurs pioneered with the Ridiculous Theatrical Company in New York beginning in the late 1960s.
Niegel Smith, who has collaborated with Mac for the past decade, is one of the show’s trio of co-directors, alongside Mac and Faye Driscoll, Bark’s choreographer. He sums up the one-of-a-kind work as “a highly theatrical event: a community of singers and musicians coming together to get deeper into an experience, a knowledge, a practice of queerness—complete with dance and ritual and a great deal of performance for each other and for the audience.” The songs take shape as scenes that “evoke the deep desire to play inside our queerness but also to share inspiration, to share challenge, to portray worth, to indulge in pleasure, to share beauty.”
A New Queer Canon
Because of its song-based format, Bark of Millions suggests a parallel with A 24-Decade History of Popular Music, which interrogated and reconsidered two centuries of American history by queering popular songs representative of each year. A 24-Decade History in fact planted the idea for Bark, since the former involved refashioning songs that already existed in the canon—which are “mostly from a heterosexual or cis perspective,” Mac explains. “I was queering them by performing them, but they weren’t necessarily queer from the get-go.”
Matt Ray, who began collaborating with Mac more than 15 years ago as a music director and arranger, was tasked with creating fresh arrangements of these songs. “We found it disappointing that few songs written by queer songwriters were well enough known to be part of that show,” recalls Ray. “We asked ourselves: Where is the music honoring queer history, where is anything musically related to queer people who have been here from the beginning of time?”
So he and Mac decided to create a canon of their own for Bark of Millions.

Matt Ray, Taylor Mac’s longtime collaborator and the composer and music director of Bark of Millions
It was during the multi-year process of putting together A 24-Decade History, according to Ray, that he and Mac became “true collaborators.” The pandemic intensified their creative relationship even further. Ray began composing to Mac’s lyrics with their acclaimed jazz opera The Hang (premiered in 2022), a retelling of the trial and death of Socrates. “I would write music and record all the parts in my studio and then send a demo to Taylor. We’d go back and forth like that. Along the way, I started getting lyrics for this other project. As soon as we finished The Hang, we jumped into Bark of Millions.”
Ray points out that while Mac is at heart “a creature of the theater, I come from the music world and was a gigger, toiling away in bars and nightclubs playing keyboards with jazz bands and doing the occasional tour. The more I got pulled into theater, the more I started to understand there was a larger collaborative world out there.” He considers his ongoing work with Mac “the best creative relationship of my life. We’re always stimulating each other, always thinking, always wondering about what’s possible. Taylor makes the impossible seem possible.”
Ray shares with Mac an omnivorous curiosity: “Both of us constantly consume information, and then rearrange it and expunge it.” He adds that they have in common “a highbrow-lowbrow sense of humor” as well as “our little obsessions.” Ray’s songwriting in Bark shows the influence of “everything I grew up with.” Its sound world comprises a spectrum of American styles, with Ray performing on piano and keyboards with a touring band. The singers include such distinctive artists as Thornetta Davis (“Detroit’s Queen of the Blues”), drag personality Le Gateau Chocolat, Jack Fuller (who commands a five-octave range), and the “gender-transcendent diva” Mama Alto, among others.
Although the revolutionary moment of Stonewall in 1969 is posited as the embarkation point, the queer figures represented in Bark of Millions range across the planet, from the beginning of time to the present. Mac explains that the notion of starting with Stonewall “was just a private organizing principle for myself and Matt while writing the show.” According to Ray, the idea was to honor Stonewall “as a beginning of what we could say is contemporary queer history, but it’s also a bit of Taylor winking at the world”—driving home the point that, despite what the history books seem to tell us, queer people have been here since the beginning.
Figures from recent history like Marsha P. Johnson (of Stonewall fame), Bayard Rustin, James Baldwin, or Mother Flawless Sabrina are juxtaposed with others from the ancient world (Sappho and Socrates) and even mythic divinities. The show’s title alludes to an ancient Egyptian creation myth involving the progenitor god Atum, who combines male and female aspects and is reborn each morning, traversing the sky in a boat known as the “Bark of Millions of Years.” (Even Tu’er Shen, the Taoist rabbit god regarded by some as a patron of gay male love, makes an appearance.)
What criteria did Mac use to select this trans-historical, trans-cultural pageant of queer icons? “The intention was to consider queerness in song, and so I chose all these people throughout world history as a way to ground our consideration and how it could be varied,” Mac responds. “They’re not all utopian figures we want to look up to. Some of them are in fact real assholes. The show is more a consideration of queerness.”
As Geffen observes, “the spectrum of queerness Mac has brought together is an extraordinary feat. He has tried to be as all-encompassing as possible, underscoring that queerness is not a monolith, that there are many paths within it. He’s trying to give as big a picture as possible.”
Chockablock Maximalism
The epic dimensions of Bark are another Mac signature. The embrace of the large scale, of durational events, in part stems from the artist’s rejection of homogeneity. “We live in a culture that asks us to reduce ourselves to one thing. Usually, when we go to see work that has a community aspect to it, it asks us to root for one team—like a sporting game or one god in church. Art can break up the concept of homogeneity. It can complicate things.”

Taylor Mac (center) and the cast of Bark of Millions
That happens, in Mac’s philosophy, through the process of consideration and wonder—which requires investing time instead of quick, pre-digested consumption. When he was growing up in Stockton, his mother ran an art school that was “chockablock full of artworks in progress.” Mac is convinced this encouraged his belief that “a roomful of things actually helps you focus as opposed to dismantling your focus.”
The acceptance of multiple simultaneous stimuli and inspirations underlies Mac’s collage-based aesthetic. “The more I’m in therapy, the more I realize that the pain you feel in any given moment isn’t just that pain. It’s all that historical pain. ‘What’s hysterical is historical.’ There is a real sense that all of the sex, joy, pleasure, and celebration, all of the artistic ideas around queerness—these are available to us. You lose sight of them sometimes, but if you focus in on certain aspects, it opens up a whole history to you.”
By nature averse to tags and categorizations, he has come to accept the label “maximalist” with wry bemusement: “Minimalism is in it, whereas minimalism doesn’t have maximalism. I don’t want a homogeneous experience and I don’t want, as a queer person, to feel like I always have to be large and I always have to be maximalist.”
Bark of Millions thus contains moments of great intimacy within its extravagance of time, of staging, of musical expression, of costume and choreography. The image of simply “hanging out” is another favorite expression. “A longer show allows you to express the full range of a thing,” Mac says. “Every so often in the show, I like to get as small as I possibly can. I want the audience to feel like we are hanging out and experiencing each other, being spontaneous with each other. Part of the art of it is the hang of it.”
Costumes and Choreography
Bark of Millions also reflects the intensely collaborative aesthetic Mac has developed with his colleagues. Along with his songwriting partner Matt Ray, he enlisted members of the creative team he has worked with for years. Costume designer Machine Dazzle (aka Matthew Flower) wonderfully complements his sensibility of “queer maximalism” (to quote the title of his first solo exhibition last year at the Museum of Arts & Design in New York).
Machine Dazzle describes his role in creating costumes for Bark as follows: “I’m providing a tree for the songbirds to inhabit, nest, and fly in and around. The costumes change throughout and get smaller and less grand as the show itself builds and gets more grand, one icon at a time.” Over the course of the show, there is an overall transformation toward “less costume and more skin.”
Rather than attempt to represent a specific figure through visual cues, Dazzle says that he is more interested in having a performer “wear something ‘other.’ Other means undefinable, questionable, not this or that, something we can’t exactly figure out. Queerness is expressed through unusual silhouettes, surprises, unapologetic forms and flesh. Shapes that are both familiar and unfamiliar share space and provide a human skyline that is both tangibly whimsical and fantastically earthy.”

Machine Dazzle, Taylor Mac’s longtime collaborator and the costume designer of Bark of Millions
It’s no surprise that dance is an integral component of Mac’s theatrical extravaganzas. Bark of Millions is, on one level, “a hunt for something authentically queer,” as Mac puts it. “Exploring that through song does something physically, because song is really just vibration.”
Faye Driscoll, a linchpin of the show as its choreographer and co-director, recalls the questions that helped her form “conceptual frames” when she was designing Bark’s dance dimension: “Some of the practices we did early on were more like inquiries: what is a queer gesture? What is one that perhaps we saw in the world and mimicked and imitated in order to connect to a community? What is one, like a swish of the hips, perhaps in a male-bodied human, that might incur rejection? How is gesture gendered? What are gestures we might gift to the future?”
She sought a choreography that would “illuminate what’s already occurring inside the music and sometimes pull out more playful aspects or undertones or subtleties. When to get fun and playful and flamboyant and wild. How can our eccentricity be actually deeply strange, not just kind of Queer Eye for the straight guy—these ways in which queerness has become a part of our marketing and capitalist machine?” Driscoll says she was inspired by Mac’s insistence that “we are seeking and wondering about what it means to inhabit a queer spirituality, that we are doubting where we are not in certainty.”
Producing the Unconventional
Another layer of the complex art that a Taylor Mac show entails remains hidden behind the scenes: the art of producing a work of independent theater with such unusual parameters, under impossible odds and pressures. Mac singles out his creative production team at Pomegranate Arts—a frequent artistic collaborator with Cal Performances—as unsung heroines “who are doing something that nobody else is doing in the industry.”
Pomegranate Arts founder Linda Brumbach says she relishes “the challenge of helping to bring work that changes the way we think about the world to fruition.” The imperative to follow an artist like Mac means there is no “conventional investor model” to follow. “The key is looking deeply into the world and finding your village to help lift the work and stay the course. This is community … with all its complexities, deep joy, and resilience.”
Alisa Regas, managing director of Pomegranate Arts, points out that “creative producers play a vital role in making possible work that has existed and might need to exist outside institutional structures.” A central challenge with producing Bark of Millions has been to find ways “to bring this very diverse group together, which comes from many different frames of reference. As a producer, you have to think a lot about the audience and the institutions you’re working with, but especially about the artists who are trying to create their best work.” The fact that these are unique individuals “with very different needs and backgrounds and ways of expressing their artistry and at the same time part of this community” requires careful attention to every step along the way of bringing a show like Bark of Millions to the public and to the stage.
What no one—neither performers, producers, nor audiences—can rely on are simple formulas or predictable patterns when dealing with such an exuberantly innovative, anti-consumerist, anti-naturalist way of making art.
“I’m much more interested in mystery right now than I am interested in knowing things,” Mac emphasizes. Elsewhere, in a personal artistic credo, he has stated: “I believe my job as a theater artist is to remind my audience of the range of their humanity. I believe the more personal risk I take in the work, the more the audience will relate and see the whole of their humanity reflected back at them.”
“We’ve all been oppressed by people trying to oppress queerness,” adds Mac. “Straight people and cis people are oppressed by that as well.” Bark of Millions is “an invitation for people to let go of the way that they oppress or have oppressed themselves. If it’s liberating for you, then you don’t have to clamp down on other human beings and you don’t have to clamp down on yourself in order to clamp down on other human beings. So it is about trying to expand our understanding of humanity.”
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Illuminations Artists and UC Berkeley Professors Discuss Individual Liberties and Community Needs

Illuminations Artists and UC Berkeley Professors Discuss Individual Liberties and Community Needs
How do we reckon with the tension between individual liberties and community needs?
Produced and directed by Mina Girgis, Cal Performances’ Director of Education, Campus and Community Engagement; Directed and edited by Lindsay Gauthier. Full credits below.
In this video, Illuminations artists and distinguished UC Berkeley faculty explore the longstanding and complex tension between individual liberties and community needs. On one hand, individual liberties are important for protecting individual autonomy and ensuring that people have the freedom to pursue their own goals and values. On the other hand, community needs are also important for promoting the common good and ensuring that society as a whole functions smoothly and fairly.
In many cases, individual liberties and community needs can be balanced through thoughtful and careful decision-making. However, there are also situations where individual liberties and community needs may come into conflict, such as in cases of public health emergencies or national security concerns. In such cases, difficult choices may need to be made to balance competing interests and priorities. In this video, artists and UC Berkeley scholars discuss the key to creating policies and practices that promote the well-being of all members of society while also respecting individual rights and freedoms.
Topics include:
- 0:00 – Intro
- 0:14 – Individual Liberties & Community Needs
- 1:55 – Free Speech
- 6:36 – Tradition & Values
- 8:46 – Liberty & Equality
- 12:29 – Spirituality & the Science of Awe
This video features Dacher Keltner, PhD, Professor of Psychology and Faculty Director of the Greater Good Science Center; Charles Hirschkind, PhD, Professor of Anthropology and Middle Eastern Studies; Magdelys Savigne and Elizabeth Rodriguez of OKAN; Juana María Rodríguez, PhD, Professor of Ethnic Studies; Erwin Chemerinsky, JD, Distinguished Professor of Law and Dean of Berkeley Law; Taylor Mac, writer and co-director of Bark of Millions; and Mame Diarra Speis, Artistic Director of Urban Bush Women, and Courtney J. Cook, Associate Artistic Director of Urban Bush Women.
Learn more about Illuminations: “Individual & Community.”
Additional Credits:
- Directors of Photography: Heath Orchard, Avery Hudson, Ethan Indorf
- 1st Assistant, Cameras: Jared Tabayoyon, Aja Pilapil
- Special thanks to the UC Berkeley Library for hosting faculty video interviews.
Transcript
Dacher Keltner:
One thing we do know is music has very clear effects on the body. It opens your body up, activates the vagus nerve. It makes you feel open to the world rather than closed. It synchronizes us. It turns us into a collective.
Charles Hirschkind:
Community is a term that makes anthropologists quite nervous, particularly for the way in which it occludes the kind of operations of power by which collectivities are created and formed.
Magdelys Savigne:
Women were hidden and it was dangerous for us. In Santiago, it was very dangerous to be called a lesbian.
Juana María Rodríguez:
People want to feel a part of something. The nuclear family is not enough. We need bigger, more expansive structures.
Erwin Chemerinsky:
The relationship between individual and community is always a very complex one. There’s often a tension between wanting to protect the freedom of the individual and what’s best for the community.
Taylor Mac:
It all comes from a concept that my drag mother gave me, which is like, if you’re not having fun at the party, go make another party.
Mame Diarra Speis:
So essentially what we were doing was breaking the fourth wall with the audience and saying, “Hey, you are a part of this as well. If I’m examining and if I’m unpacking, then let’s ask these questions of you.” Because at the end of the day, we’re trying to lift up everyone’s humanity.
Free Speech
Elizabeth Rodriguez:
People are just literally taking to the streets. They are tired of 62 years of a dictatorship that has lasted way too long. People are hungry. People are dying. People got tired, finally, and woke up. We are supporting them from all over the world. Cubans in New York, Cubans in Miami, Cubans all over the world are supporting them because the government actually cut off internet for a few hours. So we didn’t know what was happening.
So we had to let the world know that Cuba was on the streets. And that’s what we’re doing here. We cannot go to Cuba right now, but we’re here supporting our people, and supporting them and saying that this is enough and the time has come.
We are very open in our career about what the real situation in Cuba is. My name is Elizabeth Rodriguez and I am a violinist and a singer.
Magdelys Savigne:
I’m Magdelys Savigne, percussionist and composer. We have a band called OKAN. It means “heart” in our Afro-Cuban dialect.
Elizabeth Rodriguez:
It has always been a mission of mine to tell people around me that don’t know much about Cuba, about my country, what really goes on there. It’s not always been well received, but at least in my band, I finally was able to have my own voice, so I can tell the truth, and the real story behind the Cuban lives.
Erwin Chemerinsky:
In November of 2019, Ann Coulter came to speak on the Berkeley campus. Some who went to hear her were assaulted. They were punched and shoved, water was thrown at them, they were spit at. I remember then issuing a statement within the law school, saying that all ideas and views can be expressed on campus. If you don’t like a speaker, a peaceful protest is appropriate. If you don’t like a speaker, invite your own speaker.
But it’s inappropriate to punch, or shove, spit at those who are going to hear a speaker. I got substantial pushback from some of the students. They posted on every bulletin board in the law school, “Dean Chemerinsky stands up for Ann Coulter but not for the students.” And yet I think that they missed an important point. If we’re going to be a campus, views have to be able to be expressed that we dislike as well as we like.
The only way your speech or my speech will be secure tomorrow is to protect the expression of views that we don’t like today. We don’t need the first amendment to protect what we want to hear. That would occur anyway. We need the first amendment to protect the speech we don’t want to hear.
And there’s always going to be a tension between wanting to be open and allowing speech, and the reality that speech can be destructive and harmful to students as well.
Juana María Rodríguez:
I think one of the things that the university can do is be an incubator for ideas. In my classrooms, we get to take an idea and push it until it falls apart. And so, very often, those are the places where we think about the tensions between individual and community, where we think about what it means to negotiate different, sometimes conflicting needs live and in person, in a space.
We need to bring the ideas that maybe aren’t so great. We need to see them fail. We need to try on ideas and see where they take us. I think the idea of being intellectually curious about the world, reading promiscuously—I am an ethnic studies scholar, and I really take in information from all the disciplines. I love literature, art, performance, but I also think about sound, and texture, and the fabric arts, and textiles.
And I think each one of these things is a different way to see the world, to engage the world. And so I think the university becomes this wonderful place of exploration, that’s also where we are really exploring our own values, our own sense of what we hold dear, what we’re not willing to let go of.
Tradition & Values
Charles Hirschkind:
Tradition allows you to get at the way in which we depend on each other in creating conditions that uphold a valued form of life. Think about generosity, charity, modesty, humility, all of these very classic religious virtues. Those are ones that sustain relationships and create positive conditions of relationships by which people craft a valued and sustained form of life.
So by highlighting tradition, it focuses on the ongoing project of securing the interdependencies by which our lives are held together, and therefore by which our communities are created and sustained.
Courtney J. Cook:
We are opening the door for other folks to also see their experiences reflected, or find a connection in some way that ties everything together. So seeing the individual as a reflection of the community, and vice versa, the community as a whole, it also reflects on the individual, those things being connected.
We going to put in those truths from my ancestors. We going to do the hard work of understanding and undoing racism. And we going to fold in the sweet spirit of change.
Liberty & Equality
Elizabeth Rodriguez:
I didn’t have permission to even question it, because in Cuba, I wouldn’t even dare to—
Magdelys Savigne:
—Explore.
Elizabeth Rodriguez:
… to explore it, because it was so taboo. And people are—there’s so much shame around it.
Magdelys Savigne:
Yes, Cuba, it’s very open about sexuality, and talking about sex and everything.
Elizabeth Rodriguez:
Heterosexual.
Magdelys Savigne:
But straight. As long as it’s straight, you can talk all around about anything you want. But, gay? Forget it. And the only people growing up that I saw that were allowed to perform that sexuality were men.
Erwin Chemerinsky:
There’s always a tension between liberty and equality. Any law that prohibits discrimination limits the freedom of people to discriminate. But our society for decades has made the choice that it’s more important to stop discrimination than protect freedom to discriminate. This is the first time in history the Supreme Court has ever said there’s a first amendment right to discriminate in violation of anti-discrimination laws.
And it’s not just going to be for gay and lesbian individuals. If, for example, a web designer said, “I don’t want to design websites for interracial couples, or for Muslims who are getting married,” they would have the right to do it.
Mame Diarra Speis:
When we think about sex and gender, we think that these are individual things, that sex is something very private that we do within the context of our home. But, really, gender and sex are incredibly public things that have far-reaching public implications, whether it’s about how bathrooms are organized, how different locker room spaces, how athletics are organized, but also, how prisons are organized, how senior centers are organized. And these are all places where sex and gender become regulated. So I think sex is one of these places where we think about who we are as individuals and then that encounters the world. And the world doesn’t always see us the way we see ourselves.
Right now there’s so much anxiety, and really fear around questions of gender, and really attacks on the transgender population where people want to be seen as who they feel they are, and they’re encountering a community that wants to impose something else on them.
Spirituality & the Science of Awe
Dacher Keltner:
It’s so funny as a scientist to study awe, because we start with these definitions that do some injustice to the phenomenon, but then we study the thing based on the definition. And awe is the hardest thing to define of anything I’ve ever studied.
We surveyed 26 countries. Our approach to all was just to have them write: “When’s the last time you encountered a vast mystery?” We got these stories coming in from around the world. They started telling stories of music, and listening to choir in a candlelit cathedral in Europe, singing in a choir in another country, listening to an Indian raga, dancing to music, music in Brazil.
It was everywhere. And the structure of the story felt the same, which was like, “Wow, there’s something about this experience. I get goosebumps, I tear up, I feel connected to other people around me. I feel awe.” And then, as a psychologist, I’m always interested in, how? How does that work?
And we’re so far from really understanding how—you produce these sounds, they hit your ear, they go through your brain, and, next thing you know, you’re transported. The obvious idea that it took psychologists a while to get to is it synchronizes us, it turns us into a collective. You just like—we start moving together, there are studies showing our brain pattern start synchronizing. Next thing you know, the boundaries start to dissolve, and you’re like, “Man, we’re all part of this.”
Taylor Mac:
What we’re trying to do with this show is explore some kind of queer spirituality without heterosexuality dictating what that is—explore some kind of gender spirituality, queer spirituality, without any kind of cis or dominant culture leading us.
And that’s really what it is. It’s really just about hanging out together and wondering together. And we just do it all with music. So I think of it a little bit like a reverse conversion therapy, that the whole idea is that we’re supposed to just make everyone more queer than they were when they entered.
I don’t think we have to do too much to convince people that they’re queer, or to invite them into an experience that is queer, because they already are. So sometimes it feels to me that when people ask me, “How can I make this show universal?” that what they’re saying is, “You’re too odd for everyone. So please help us sell tickets to straight people.”
I make work for queer people. And if the straight people want to come, please do. We will make you queer by the end of the evening. And we don’t really even do it. You do it. You do all the work yourself. All we do is sing songs.
Dacher Keltner:
When I ask people, “Tell me a time when music told you about what life means,” there’ll be one person who’ll say, “Oh, I was at a Garth Brooks concert, and I just started weeping about my life.” And then another person will say, like, “God, I saw this piece of classical music and I thought about who I am.” And I feel like that’s one of the great mysteries that may never be solved, is how it helps us discover who we are.
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Jeremy Geffen on the Unique Value of Recitals

Jeremy Geffen on the Unique Value of Recitals
“It is because of that openness of concept that you get to something that is very, very personal for the artist.”
Video by Tiffany Valvo, Cal Performances’ Social Media and Digital Content Specialist
While we may be more drawn to visualizing an artist as the star of an opera or as a concerto soloist, there is something especially captivating about seeing them in recital. In this video, Cal Performances’ Executive and Artistic Director Jeremy Geffen explores the value of recitals, covering:
- 0:22 – How would you define a recital?
- 1:19 – What is different about seeing a performer as a recitalist as opposed to as part of a larger production?
- 2:49 – How do a presenter like Cal Performances and an artist come together to create a recital experience?
- 3:58 – What draws you personally to recitals?
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Julius Eastman’s Femenine

Julius Eastman’s Femenine
“Femenine is the kind of piece that makes one contemplate the immensity of reality.”
Wild Up Artistic Director Christopher Rountree, filmed by Anna Tse. Video editing by Tiffany Valvo, Cal Performances’ Social Media and Digital Content Specialist. Music bed: Wild Up, Julius Eastman Vol. 1: Femenine, New Amsterdam Records (2021).
Chris Rountree, artistic director of Wild Up, discusses the life and music of Julius Eastman, the late composer whose amalgamated musical vision was repeatedly dismissed in its day, but is now being unearthed to critical acclaim. In March 2024, Rountree will conduct Wild Up in a performance of Eastman’s Femenine as part of Cal Performances’ Illuminations programming contemplating “Individual & Community.” To provide insight into the work, in this video, Rountree covers:
Transcript
Chris Rountree:
These pieces of Eastman’s have these elements: personal agency, discourse about systemic inequity, and about race, and gender, and sexuality. And also, when you just drop the needle on the record, they’re totally ecstatic. And that, in a combination, is mind-blowing.
When did Eastman write Femenine?
He was having all these discourses right after he got out of the Curtis School of Music. Got out of Curtis, he went to Buffalo, he was in academia, he was working with an all-White ensemble, which were mostly men, and he was writing pieces called Femenine, which is the word “feminine” with the word “men” pushed inside of it, and he was doing the piece in drag at the piano, the only Black man on stage. He was doing pieces called “Evil N-Word,” “Crazy N,” “Gay Gorilla,” and then—he said these words that I won’t say—he then said, “You must print the title, because people should walk past the marquee, and the marquee should challenge them. When they receive an invite to the concert, they should feel something—the history of our country, the tragedy of racism, the tragedy of slavery—they should feel those things.
What is the musical form of the work?
The form of Eastman’s Femenine is really remarkable. When he designed the piece, he says that there’s one player or a group of players that play a single melody, which he calls the prime. It’s 13 beats long, it only has two notes. This prime melody begins at minute three in the work. We’re all playing on stopwatches, and it goes for the next 75 minutes on repeat without stopping.
Eastman gives instructions like “falling backwards”; “increase”; sometimes specific octaves, sometimes just scrawled on the page “E-flat”; sometimes poetic and also specific timings like, “pianist will interrupt, must repeat.”
So, these poetic words all over the score, every few minutes; there’s another prompt that changes what happens on top of the prime melody very subtly. So, this is a form of music-making that he called the “organic music.” So you’re just feeling something that is really staying on one idea for a long time, and subtly, it just shifts angles over a long period. We also know from Eastman’s performances that he would take solos and improvise. So everyone’s improvising the whole time, except for the person playing the prime.
What happened at the first performance of the work?
The magic of this piece happened at the first performance when there’s an apocryphal tale. They were doing the premier in an art gallery. And we know the piece is going to be 80 minutes or so, we know there’s gonna be one melody repeated the whole time and lots of improvisations. But what the band apparently did not know is that Eastman was going to go into the other room, he had built a machine that played the sleigh bells, and he would plug the machine into the wall before the piece began, and then walk back and start the work.
So it is an 80-minute arc of this organic, changing, swirling music, all contained within 85 minutes or so of sleigh bells that persist the entire time. Which, when you’re inside of that sound, it is a shimmering, incredible kind of forest of sound. It’s like being rained on. It’s like it has this quality of being everywhere and all around you. So when Wild Up does the piece, all of us begin playing sleigh bells.
Who is this music for?
I think that the audience is absolutely everybody. People that want to sit in a space, a meditative space, and feel something overwhelming that is about both the natural world and the human condition and also systemic inequity, and also gender and sexuality. Femenine is the kind of piece that makes one contemplate the immensity of reality.
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